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Mein Alltag durch Corona, nicht so ernst gemeint
Zitat von Perzet:Ich weiß, der Artikel ist auf englisch. Ich habe ihn gerade gelesen und frage mich, wieweit das ebenfalls mit in die Komplexität der letzten Jahre mit reinspielt. Es geht um die eigentlich nicht abbaubaren PFAS und was nach neuesten Studien hilft, diese doch aus dem Körper loszuwerden. Der Hormonhaushalt kann ...
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Zitat von Scheol:Info: Ich komme noch nichtmal an der Werbung vorbei. Soll meine Telefonnummer oder email angeben.
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Fiber Found in Everyday Foods Helps Remove Forever Chemicals from Your Body
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 17, 2025
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
1. A specific type of fiber called beta-glucan, found in oats and barley, was shown to reduce levels of harmful PFAS chemicals in the blood within just four weeks
2. Participants who consumed beta-glucan experienced significant drops in legacy PFAS
compounds like PFOA and PFOS, which are linked to cancer and hormone disruption
3. The fiber group was the only one to show a meaningful reduction in the seven most high-risk PFAS chemicals identified by the National Academies of Sciences, including those that raise your risk for thyroid disease, cancer and ulcerative colitis
4. In a follow-up study using mice, animals exposed to high PFAS levels but fed beta-glucan had lower blood PFAS, improved fat metabolism and less liver stress compared to controls
5. The key to beta-glucan’s effect is its gel-forming action in your gut, which traps PFAS and interrupts their reabsorption cycle, allowing your body to eliminate them through stool
Most people have no idea they're carrying around a hidden chemical load that their
bodies weren't designed to handle. But the reality is, we're living in a world saturated
with per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, commonly known as PFAS. These synthetic
compounds are engineered to resist heat, water and oil — and they don't just stay on the surface.
Once these substances enter your bloodstream, they're incredibly hard to get rid of.
That's why researchers are searching for real, practical solutions. Many believe that
detoxing PFAS is a lost cause — that once they're in your body, they're in for good. But
new evidence suggests otherwise.
It turns out your gut, not your liver or kidneys, is one key to turning this around. And the
solution doesn't involve harsh protocols or extreme diets. It starts with something as
simple as how you digest your food — and whether the right kind of fiber is present to
help carry these chemicals out.
If you've ever wondered why you're dealing with persistent fatigue, inflammation,
hormone problems or chronic digestive issues, PFAS could be part of the story. These
chemicals hijack your system slowly and silently. But there's now a realistic path to
lowering that burden, and it starts by focusing on what's happening in your gut.
Four Weeks of Fiber Lowered Toxic PFAS in the Blood
A study published in Environmental Health evaluated 72 erwachsen men with elevated LDL
cholesterol who were already enrolled in a trial testing oat beta-glucan's effects on
cholesterol.
Beta-glucans are a type of soluble fiber found in oats and barley that form a gel-like
substance in your gut, helping to trap and remove compounds like bile acids and, as this
study explored, PFAS as well. PFAS chemicals, also known as forever chemicals, are
notoriously hard to remove from the body, so the researchers wanted to know: could a
fiber intervention make a dent?
• Participants received either a fiber-rich supplement or a placebo for four weeks —
All participants followed the original protocol, consuming either an oat beta-glucan
drink (1 gram (g) of beta-glucan and 1.9 g total fiber per serving, three times daily)
or a brown rice drink with no active fiber. Blood samples were collected at baseline
and after four weeks to measure 17 different PFAS types.
1
• PFAS levels dropped significantly but only in the fiber group for legacy PFAS —
While short-chain PFAS decreased in both groups, likely due to their shorter half-
lives, the study found that only the group consuming beta-glucan showed
significant reductions in long-chain PFAS known to persist for years in the body.
These included perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) and perfluorooctanesulfonate
(PFOS) — two of the most studied PFAS compounds, both associated with
increased cancer and hormone disruption risks.
• PFAS reductions occurred even in men with exposure levels typical of the general
population — Researchers noted that all participants had detectable PFAS levels at
the start of the study. The levels of certain PFAS were higher than previously
reported in Canadian populations, suggesting rising background exposure. Despite
this, the beta-glucan intervention still reduced PFAS levels, showing promise even
for people without known occupational or high-dose environmental exposure.
• Only the fiber group saw a drop in the most concerning types of PFAS — These
specific PFAS, identified by the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering,
and Medicine (NASEM), are known to increase the risk for serious health issues like
thyroid disease, kidney problems, ulcerative colitis and certain cancers.
If your blood level of these seven PFAS reaches just 2 nanograms per milliliter,
doctors are advised to monitor your cholesterol, blood pressure during pregnancy
and breast cancer risk. At 20 nanograms per milliliter, the recommendations expand
to include regular screening for thyroid disease, testicular cancer and more. In the
study, only the fiber group had a meaningful reduction in this high-risk PFAS group.
• The proposed mechanism is the fiber's ability to trap PFAS in your digestive tract —
Researchers believe the gel-forming fiber worked because PFAS share biochemical
properties with bile acids — compounds already known to bind to beta-glucan and
get flushed out in feces. PFAS and bile acids are both amphipathic, meaning they
have both water-loving and fat-loving parts. This allows them to interact with fiber
gels and get excreted rather than reabsorbed.
Most PFAS don't leave your body easily. Once excreted into the bile, they're typically
reabsorbed in your intestine, returning to your liver in a loop. Beta-glucan breaks
this cycle by holding PFAS in your gut, giving your body a chance to eliminate them
through stool rather than cycling them back into your bloodstream.
Oat Beta-Glucan Helped Mice Eliminate PFAS
In a related study published in Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology, researchers from
Boston University used mice to examine whether oat beta-glucan could reduce the
body's PFAS load. They exposed mice to a mixture of seven PFAS compounds in
drinking water while feeding them diets that included either inulin, a non-gel-forming
fiber, or oat beta-glucan — a gel-forming fiber.
• Despite drinking more contaminated water, fiber-fed mice had lower PFAS in their
blood — The mice fed beta-glucan consumed more PFAS-contaminated water, yet
ended up with lower blood levels of some of the most harmful PFAS. This suggests
that the fiber helped block reabsorption of PFAS in the gut. In other words, even
when these mice took in more of the toxic chemicals, their bodies were better at
flushing them out before they could circulate back into the bloodstream.
• Mice on the fiber diet had better fat metabolism and lower liver fat — The beta-
glucan-fed mice showed lower liver triglycerides and reduced fat accumulation in
the small intestine and fat tissue overall. This matters because PFAS have been
linked to metabolic disruption and fatty liver disease. These findings suggest that
fiber offers a double benefit: lowering toxic load while improving fat regulation in
the body.
• Fiber-fed mice experienced better lipid balance without triggering other stress
responses — The researchers also looked at markers of liver stress and
detoxification. A key enzyme linked to chemical detox was lower in the fiber-fed
group during the cleansing phase, indicating that their bodies were under less toxic
stress after PFAS exposure.
2
How to Reduce Your PFAS Burden with Targeted Fiber and
Smarter Food Choices
If you're dealing with fatigue, hormone issues or unexplained weight gain, and you've
already cleaned up your water, cookware and household products, you could be missing
the last piece of the puzzle: what's stuck inside your body. PFAS aren't just external
threats; they're internal ones too.
Once these forever chemicals get in, they linger for years unless you take direct steps to
push them out. Here's where smart, gut-focused nutrition comes in. The right type of
fiber, at the right time, makes a meaningful difference in your toxic load. But timing and
your gut's condition matter. So, if you're trying to reduce PFAS levels in your system,
start here:
1. Check your gut health first — If you regularly feel bloated after meals, go days
without a bowel movement or have frequent loose stools, your gut likely isn't ready
for high-fiber foods. Don't guess — listen to your symptoms. These are signs that
your microbiome is imbalanced and your gut lining is inflamed or damaged. For
now, avoid complex carbs and stick to simpler ones like fruit and white rice while
your gut settles down.
2. Avoid fiber and fermentable carbs if your digestion is impaired — A damaged gut
can't handle even healthy foods. Beans, leafy greens, cruciferous veggies and
whole grains all ferment quickly and feed the wrong microbes when your gut is
compromised. That drives more bloating, inflammation and gas. In this phase, you
want fuel that doesn't backfire — whole fruit and cooked starches that digest cleanly
without fermenting too fast.
3. Reintroduce fermentable fibers in small amounts once your gut calms — When your
bloating stops and your digestion becomes regular, that's your green light. Start with
resistant starches like cooked-and-cooled white potatoes or green bananas. These feed butyrate-producing bacteria — the kind that protect your gut lining and regulate
inflammation. Slowly add in garlic, leeks and onions. Keep portions small and build
up as your tolerance improves.
4. Eat foods high in beta-glucans once your gut is stable — Oats and barley contain
beta-glucan, which binds to PFAS in your digestive tract and helps your body
eliminate them through your stool. Once your digestion is in good shape, make this
fiber part of your daily routine. Other good sources include organic rye, maitake and
shiitake mushrooms, and seaweed like kombu.
Be mindful of your portions though, as most seaweeds contain polyunsaturated
fats, including linoleic acid, which is harmful to your health in excessive amounts.
Choose whole, minimally processed forms of beta-glucans whenever possible to
get the most benefit.
5. Cut off PFAS exposure at the source — While you work to flush them out, don't let
more in. Use a water filter certified for PFAS. Stop storing food in nonstick
containers or wrappers. Replace your nonstick cookware with stainless steel,
ceramic or enameled cast iron. Skip stain-resistant treatments on clothes and
furniture. PFAS are everywhere, but the more you avoid them now, the less your
body has to fight later.
FAQs About Removing PFAS with Fiber
Q: What are PFAS and why are they dangerous?
A: PFAS are synthetic chemicals used in nonstick cookware, food packaging, stain-
resistant fabrics and firefighting foams. They build up in your blood, liver and fat
tissues and don't easily break down. Long-term exposure has been linked to liver
damage, hormone disruption, cancer, immune suppression and infertility.
Q: How do PFAS stay in my body for so long?
A: Once PFAS enter your system, usually through contaminated water or food,
they're reabsorbed in your intestines and recirculated back to your liver in a loop.
This recycling is what gives PFAS such long half-lives — many remain in your body
for years unless that cycle is broken.
Q: Does fiber really help remove PFAS from my body?
A: Yes. Clinical research in humans and animals has shown that gel-forming fibers
like oat beta-glucan bind PFAS in your gut and stop them from being reabsorbed.
This allows your body to eliminate them through stool, reducing your overall PFAS
burden over time.
Q: Should I add fiber to my diet immediately?
A: Not necessarily. If you have symptoms of gut dysfunction, like bloating,
constipation, loose stools or food intolerances, you need to heal your gut first.
Starting fiber too soon makes things worse. Begin with simple, low-fiber carbs like
whole fruit or white rice, then reintroduce fiber slowly once your digestion stabilizes.
Q: What are the best ways to lower PFAS exposure and support detox?
A: Avoid sources of new PFAS exposure. Use PFAS-certified water filters, stop using
nonstick cookware and stain-resistant products, and limit packaged foods. Once
your gut is ready, include small amounts of beta-glucan-rich foods like organic oats
or barley. Over time, this helps reduce PFAS levels while also improving your gut
health and immune resilience.
Sources and References
Environmental Health March 15, 2025
Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology February 2025, Volume 495, 117188
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 17, 2025
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
1. A specific type of fiber called beta-glucan, found in oats and barley, was shown to reduce levels of harmful PFAS chemicals in the blood within just four weeks
2. Participants who consumed beta-glucan experienced significant drops in legacy PFAS
compounds like PFOA and PFOS, which are linked to cancer and hormone disruption
3. The fiber group was the only one to show a meaningful reduction in the seven most high-risk PFAS chemicals identified by the National Academies of Sciences, including those that raise your risk for thyroid disease, cancer and ulcerative colitis
4. In a follow-up study using mice, animals exposed to high PFAS levels but fed beta-glucan had lower blood PFAS, improved fat metabolism and less liver stress compared to controls
5. The key to beta-glucan’s effect is its gel-forming action in your gut, which traps PFAS and interrupts their reabsorption cycle, allowing your body to eliminate them through stool
Most people have no idea they're carrying around a hidden chemical load that their
bodies weren't designed to handle. But the reality is, we're living in a world saturated
with per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, commonly known as PFAS. These synthetic
compounds are engineered to resist heat, water and oil — and they don't just stay on the surface.
Once these substances enter your bloodstream, they're incredibly hard to get rid of.
That's why researchers are searching for real, practical solutions. Many believe that
detoxing PFAS is a lost cause — that once they're in your body, they're in for good. But
new evidence suggests otherwise.
It turns out your gut, not your liver or kidneys, is one key to turning this around. And the
solution doesn't involve harsh protocols or extreme diets. It starts with something as
simple as how you digest your food — and whether the right kind of fiber is present to
help carry these chemicals out.
If you've ever wondered why you're dealing with persistent fatigue, inflammation,
hormone problems or chronic digestive issues, PFAS could be part of the story. These
chemicals hijack your system slowly and silently. But there's now a realistic path to
lowering that burden, and it starts by focusing on what's happening in your gut.
Four Weeks of Fiber Lowered Toxic PFAS in the Blood
A study published in Environmental Health evaluated 72 erwachsen men with elevated LDL
cholesterol who were already enrolled in a trial testing oat beta-glucan's effects on
cholesterol.
Beta-glucans are a type of soluble fiber found in oats and barley that form a gel-like
substance in your gut, helping to trap and remove compounds like bile acids and, as this
study explored, PFAS as well. PFAS chemicals, also known as forever chemicals, are
notoriously hard to remove from the body, so the researchers wanted to know: could a
fiber intervention make a dent?
• Participants received either a fiber-rich supplement or a placebo for four weeks —
All participants followed the original protocol, consuming either an oat beta-glucan
drink (1 gram (g) of beta-glucan and 1.9 g total fiber per serving, three times daily)
or a brown rice drink with no active fiber. Blood samples were collected at baseline
and after four weeks to measure 17 different PFAS types.
1
• PFAS levels dropped significantly but only in the fiber group for legacy PFAS —
While short-chain PFAS decreased in both groups, likely due to their shorter half-
lives, the study found that only the group consuming beta-glucan showed
significant reductions in long-chain PFAS known to persist for years in the body.
These included perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) and perfluorooctanesulfonate
(PFOS) — two of the most studied PFAS compounds, both associated with
increased cancer and hormone disruption risks.
• PFAS reductions occurred even in men with exposure levels typical of the general
population — Researchers noted that all participants had detectable PFAS levels at
the start of the study. The levels of certain PFAS were higher than previously
reported in Canadian populations, suggesting rising background exposure. Despite
this, the beta-glucan intervention still reduced PFAS levels, showing promise even
for people without known occupational or high-dose environmental exposure.
• Only the fiber group saw a drop in the most concerning types of PFAS — These
specific PFAS, identified by the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering,
and Medicine (NASEM), are known to increase the risk for serious health issues like
thyroid disease, kidney problems, ulcerative colitis and certain cancers.
If your blood level of these seven PFAS reaches just 2 nanograms per milliliter,
doctors are advised to monitor your cholesterol, blood pressure during pregnancy
and breast cancer risk. At 20 nanograms per milliliter, the recommendations expand
to include regular screening for thyroid disease, testicular cancer and more. In the
study, only the fiber group had a meaningful reduction in this high-risk PFAS group.
• The proposed mechanism is the fiber's ability to trap PFAS in your digestive tract —
Researchers believe the gel-forming fiber worked because PFAS share biochemical
properties with bile acids — compounds already known to bind to beta-glucan and
get flushed out in feces. PFAS and bile acids are both amphipathic, meaning they
have both water-loving and fat-loving parts. This allows them to interact with fiber
gels and get excreted rather than reabsorbed.
Most PFAS don't leave your body easily. Once excreted into the bile, they're typically
reabsorbed in your intestine, returning to your liver in a loop. Beta-glucan breaks
this cycle by holding PFAS in your gut, giving your body a chance to eliminate them
through stool rather than cycling them back into your bloodstream.
Oat Beta-Glucan Helped Mice Eliminate PFAS
In a related study published in Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology, researchers from
Boston University used mice to examine whether oat beta-glucan could reduce the
body's PFAS load. They exposed mice to a mixture of seven PFAS compounds in
drinking water while feeding them diets that included either inulin, a non-gel-forming
fiber, or oat beta-glucan — a gel-forming fiber.
• Despite drinking more contaminated water, fiber-fed mice had lower PFAS in their
blood — The mice fed beta-glucan consumed more PFAS-contaminated water, yet
ended up with lower blood levels of some of the most harmful PFAS. This suggests
that the fiber helped block reabsorption of PFAS in the gut. In other words, even
when these mice took in more of the toxic chemicals, their bodies were better at
flushing them out before they could circulate back into the bloodstream.
• Mice on the fiber diet had better fat metabolism and lower liver fat — The beta-
glucan-fed mice showed lower liver triglycerides and reduced fat accumulation in
the small intestine and fat tissue overall. This matters because PFAS have been
linked to metabolic disruption and fatty liver disease. These findings suggest that
fiber offers a double benefit: lowering toxic load while improving fat regulation in
the body.
• Fiber-fed mice experienced better lipid balance without triggering other stress
responses — The researchers also looked at markers of liver stress and
detoxification. A key enzyme linked to chemical detox was lower in the fiber-fed
group during the cleansing phase, indicating that their bodies were under less toxic
stress after PFAS exposure.
2
How to Reduce Your PFAS Burden with Targeted Fiber and
Smarter Food Choices
If you're dealing with fatigue, hormone issues or unexplained weight gain, and you've
already cleaned up your water, cookware and household products, you could be missing
the last piece of the puzzle: what's stuck inside your body. PFAS aren't just external
threats; they're internal ones too.
Once these forever chemicals get in, they linger for years unless you take direct steps to
push them out. Here's where smart, gut-focused nutrition comes in. The right type of
fiber, at the right time, makes a meaningful difference in your toxic load. But timing and
your gut's condition matter. So, if you're trying to reduce PFAS levels in your system,
start here:
1. Check your gut health first — If you regularly feel bloated after meals, go days
without a bowel movement or have frequent loose stools, your gut likely isn't ready
for high-fiber foods. Don't guess — listen to your symptoms. These are signs that
your microbiome is imbalanced and your gut lining is inflamed or damaged. For
now, avoid complex carbs and stick to simpler ones like fruit and white rice while
your gut settles down.
2. Avoid fiber and fermentable carbs if your digestion is impaired — A damaged gut
can't handle even healthy foods. Beans, leafy greens, cruciferous veggies and
whole grains all ferment quickly and feed the wrong microbes when your gut is
compromised. That drives more bloating, inflammation and gas. In this phase, you
want fuel that doesn't backfire — whole fruit and cooked starches that digest cleanly
without fermenting too fast.
3. Reintroduce fermentable fibers in small amounts once your gut calms — When your
bloating stops and your digestion becomes regular, that's your green light. Start with
resistant starches like cooked-and-cooled white potatoes or green bananas. These feed butyrate-producing bacteria — the kind that protect your gut lining and regulate
inflammation. Slowly add in garlic, leeks and onions. Keep portions small and build
up as your tolerance improves.
4. Eat foods high in beta-glucans once your gut is stable — Oats and barley contain
beta-glucan, which binds to PFAS in your digestive tract and helps your body
eliminate them through your stool. Once your digestion is in good shape, make this
fiber part of your daily routine. Other good sources include organic rye, maitake and
shiitake mushrooms, and seaweed like kombu.
Be mindful of your portions though, as most seaweeds contain polyunsaturated
fats, including linoleic acid, which is harmful to your health in excessive amounts.
Choose whole, minimally processed forms of beta-glucans whenever possible to
get the most benefit.
5. Cut off PFAS exposure at the source — While you work to flush them out, don't let
more in. Use a water filter certified for PFAS. Stop storing food in nonstick
containers or wrappers. Replace your nonstick cookware with stainless steel,
ceramic or enameled cast iron. Skip stain-resistant treatments on clothes and
furniture. PFAS are everywhere, but the more you avoid them now, the less your
body has to fight later.
FAQs About Removing PFAS with Fiber
Q: What are PFAS and why are they dangerous?
A: PFAS are synthetic chemicals used in nonstick cookware, food packaging, stain-
resistant fabrics and firefighting foams. They build up in your blood, liver and fat
tissues and don't easily break down. Long-term exposure has been linked to liver
damage, hormone disruption, cancer, immune suppression and infertility.
Q: How do PFAS stay in my body for so long?
A: Once PFAS enter your system, usually through contaminated water or food,
they're reabsorbed in your intestines and recirculated back to your liver in a loop.
This recycling is what gives PFAS such long half-lives — many remain in your body
for years unless that cycle is broken.
Q: Does fiber really help remove PFAS from my body?
A: Yes. Clinical research in humans and animals has shown that gel-forming fibers
like oat beta-glucan bind PFAS in your gut and stop them from being reabsorbed.
This allows your body to eliminate them through stool, reducing your overall PFAS
burden over time.
Q: Should I add fiber to my diet immediately?
A: Not necessarily. If you have symptoms of gut dysfunction, like bloating,
constipation, loose stools or food intolerances, you need to heal your gut first.
Starting fiber too soon makes things worse. Begin with simple, low-fiber carbs like
whole fruit or white rice, then reintroduce fiber slowly once your digestion stabilizes.
Q: What are the best ways to lower PFAS exposure and support detox?
A: Avoid sources of new PFAS exposure. Use PFAS-certified water filters, stop using
nonstick cookware and stain-resistant products, and limit packaged foods. Once
your gut is ready, include small amounts of beta-glucan-rich foods like organic oats
or barley. Over time, this helps reduce PFAS levels while also improving your gut
health and immune resilience.
Sources and References
Environmental Health March 15, 2025
Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology February 2025, Volume 495, 117188
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Zitat von Perzet:Fiber Found in Everyday Foods Helps Remove Forever Chemicals from Your Body
Beta-Glucan finde ich eh sehr interessant, aber leider oft noch unterschätzt. Sehr spannend, dass es offenbar PFAS aus dem Körper bekommen kann!
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Der gute alte Haferbrei. Unsere Vorfahren wussten seit Jahrhunderten, was gut ist.
Hab beim Artikel lesen die ganze Zeit drauf gewartet, wann der Abschnitt kommt, wo die Wundermittel in Form von Nahrungsergänzungsmittel zu hohen Preisen angeboten werden.
Doch diesmal war es ja recht harmlos.
Keramikpfanne besser nicht kaufen. Die Dinger taugen nichts. Hab meine (aus anderen Gründen gekauft) gerade erst entsorgt. Leitet die Wärme schlecht, nach wenigen Nutzungen fängt es an, dass alles anbrennt. Dann ist die Pfanne hinüber. Guter Freund hatte das gleiche Problem mit seiner Keramikpfanne.
Hab beim Artikel lesen die ganze Zeit drauf gewartet, wann der Abschnitt kommt, wo die Wundermittel in Form von Nahrungsergänzungsmittel zu hohen Preisen angeboten werden.
Doch diesmal war es ja recht harmlos.
Keramikpfanne besser nicht kaufen. Die Dinger taugen nichts. Hab meine (aus anderen Gründen gekauft) gerade erst entsorgt. Leitet die Wärme schlecht, nach wenigen Nutzungen fängt es an, dass alles anbrennt. Dann ist die Pfanne hinüber. Guter Freund hatte das gleiche Problem mit seiner Keramikpfanne.
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Zitat von Zaungast:Keramikpfanne besser nicht kaufen.
Ich habe eine mit keramischer Beschichtung, die ist gut, ist auch insgesamt PFAS-frei. Und eine Gusseisenpfanne habe ich auch, aber die ist recht schwer, die nehme ich nur an halbwegs guten Tagen.
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Zitat von ljus:Und eine Gusseisenpfanne habe ich auch, aber die ist recht schwer, die nehme ich nur an halbwegs guten Tagen.
Kriegst die Pfanne nicht bewegt, bist du zu schwach. Bitte halte dein Pacing ein.
Weiß genau, was du meinst.
Hab auch eine Gusseiserne.
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ljus
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Zitat von Zaungast:Kriegst die Pfanne nicht bewegt, bist du zu schwach. Bitte halte dein Pacing ein.
...tatsächlich achte ich bei neuem Küchen-Equipment derzeit vor allem auf das Gewicht. Kann man nur noch mit Humor nehmen.
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Zitat von ljus:derzeit vor allem auf das Gewicht
Ja, so zieht es sich durch alle Ebenen.
Der erste Winter: War mir alles zu schwer. Die Winterjacke wog gefühlt so viel wie eine Ritterrüstung. Einmal neu eingekleidet. Alles schädliches ultraleicht Zeug, PFAS verseucht, doch ich konnte wenigstens wieder vor die Tür.
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https://www.zeit.de/sport/2025-07/anne-...rriereende
Die vergangenen beiden Jahre seien aber von ganz seltsamen Krankheiten geprägt gewesen, sagt Haug der Nachrichtenagentur dpa. Nach einer Coronainfektion hatte sie Diabetes entwickelt, litt unter einer Entzündung der Schilddrüse, einer Fußverletzung und einer Thrombose im Auge. Dass sie aufgrund der gesundheitlichen Einbrüche nicht konstant trainieren konnte, habe sie bereits zweifeln lassen.
Ja, ganz seltsam...
(Von einer Thrombose im Auge nach COVID-19 habe ich übrigens nun schon öfter gelesen.)
Die vergangenen beiden Jahre seien aber von ganz seltsamen Krankheiten geprägt gewesen, sagt Haug der Nachrichtenagentur dpa. Nach einer Coronainfektion hatte sie Diabetes entwickelt, litt unter einer Entzündung der Schilddrüse, einer Fußverletzung und einer Thrombose im Auge. Dass sie aufgrund der gesundheitlichen Einbrüche nicht konstant trainieren konnte, habe sie bereits zweifeln lassen.
Ja, ganz seltsam...
(Von einer Thrombose im Auge nach COVID-19 habe ich übrigens nun schon öfter gelesen.)
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https://www.dgn.org/artikel/zum-aktuell...bei-me-cfs
Eine meiner Lieblingsstellen: Angesichts der bisherigen Erkenntnisse ist derzeit nicht davon auszugehen, dass immunologische Faktoren eine entscheidende Rolle bei ME/CFS spielen.
Nur damit ihr Bescheid wisst.
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Zaungast
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Zitat von ljus:und hier noch die heutige Stellungnahme der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Neurologie (DGN) zum aktuellen Forschungsstand bei ME/CFS:
Die fMRT Studie von Dr. Ziaja wird natürlich unter´m Teppich gekehrt. Es könnte so einfach sein. Vermutlich Konkurrenzdenken unter den Ärzten und Forschern? Auf Kosten der Betroffenen?
Nächster Spaß. Hatte mich als willige Studienteilnehmerin eintragen lassen. Online Programm für Neuroplastizität/ Mind Body Ansatz. Zusammenarbeit mit den Krankenkassen.
Wurde extra auch für ME/CFS ausgewiesen. Nun soll es bald losgehen. Allerdings nicht mit Diagnose ME/CFS.
Man soll zum Arzt gehen und sich F Diagnosen bescheinigen lassen. Was stimmt mit denen alle nicht?
Werde an der Studie nicht mehr teilnehmen. Die hat sich sowieso um Monate verzögert. Mittlerweile habe ich mir genug Wissen darüber über andere Kanäle angeeignet.
Was Medikamente angeht, an Dr. Kacik halten. Einer der wenigen, welche den bestmöglichen Durchblick haben und der nicht sinnlos was verschreibt. Ebenso lässt sich von ihm ableiten, wie man nicht medikamentös mit anderen Sachen, dauert vielleicht ein wenig länger, die selben Effekte erzielen kann. Kann sich nicht jeder leisten off label Medikamente, Kostenpunkt mehrere hundert Euro im Monat, aus eigener Tasche zu zahlen.
In seinem letzten Interview bezog er sich u.a. auf Dr. Ziajas Studie.
Am Besten macht man seinen eigenen Kram und sucht sich das zusammen, was für einen passt. Über die Selbsthilfekanäle puzzeln sie sich gerade die verschiedenen Sub Typen zusammen. So kann jeder für sich noch besser sehen, was passend an Behandlungen sein kann.
Long Covid, den Begriff hatte eine Betroffene in den Raum geworfen und er wurde übernommen.
Selber heilen darf man sich zusätzlich.
Dies bei einer der schwersten Krankheiten, die es überhaupt gibt.
Da braucht es wirklich viel Satire und schrägen Humor, um das zu überstehen.
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Ich habe den Großteil meiner Kenntnisse über ne amerikanische Seite. Die dort diskutierten Sachen, die helfen sollen, habe ich jetzt wiedergefunden in einem Produkt von Sunday Naturals (meine Ärztin ist von der Qualität dieser Firma überzeugt)
https://www.sunday.de/antivir-immun-komplex.html
Manches davon nehme ich als Einzelprodukte inzwischen abwechselnd ein.
Dachte, ich teile es. Vielleicht kennt Ihr das eh.
https://www.sunday.de/antivir-immun-komplex.html
Manches davon nehme ich als Einzelprodukte inzwischen abwechselnd ein.
Dachte, ich teile es. Vielleicht kennt Ihr das eh.
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Zitat von Perzet:meine Ärztin ist von der Qualität dieser Firma überzeugt
Meine Hausärztin auch, ich bestelle öfter bei denen Produkte. Den Antivir-Komplex habe ich allerdings noch nicht genommen, kannst Du dazu etwas berichten?
Zitat von Zaungast:Man soll zum Arzt gehen und sich F Diagnosen bescheinigen lassen. Was stimmt mit denen alle nicht?
Die haben doch nicht mehr alle Latten am Zaun.
Zitat von Zaungast:Kann sich nicht jeder leisten off label Medikamente, Kostenpunkt mehrere hundert Euro im Monat, aus eigener Tasche zu zahlen.
Es sind ja nicht nur die Medikamente... Zumindest Dr. Kacik ist - was die Höhe seiner Abrechnungen betrifft - nicht unumstritten.
Martin Rücker hat in seinem aktuellen Newsletter (Anmeldung lohnt sich) übrigens was zur DGN-Stellungnahme und zum Drumherum geschrieben bzw. zusammengefasst, finde ich sehr interessant:
https://309772.seu2.cleverreach.com/m/1...9d5f08e9d2
Das Mysterium mit Prof. Schomerus habe ich an anderer Stelle schon mitbekommen, krass, was da lief.
+ edit: Ich wünsche diese Shaizze eigentlich niemandem an den Hals, muss aber sagen: Wenn der Kleinschnitz postviral mal derart niedergestreckt würde, hielte sich mein Mitleid arg in Grenzen.
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Zitat von Zaungast:Man soll zum Arzt gehen und sich F Diagnosen bescheinigen lassen.
Ich dachte, inzwischen wäre klar, dass es nichts mit F-Diagnosen zu tun hat.
Zitat von Zaungast:Was Medikamente angeht, an Dr. Kacik halten.
Steht hier irgendwo, was er empfiehlt?
Zitat von Perzet:Sunday Naturals
Ich hatte einiges von denen, aber dieses noch nicht.
Erst heute habe ich nach langer Zeit wieder Q10 und NADH von anderen Anbietern bestellt. Zu blöd, an Sunday Natural hab ich in dem Moment nicht gedacht.
Mir geht es nach einigen guten Monaten wieder fast wie am Anfang.
Ich hoffe, dass es nicht in vollem Ausmaß zurück kommt.
Vielleicht ist es auch nur eine vorübergehende Erschöpfung.
Letzte Woche habe ich nicht so gut auf mich achten können.
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